Comments on: Is Swastika a Symbol of Evil? http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil The Internationalist Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:26:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Kay http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-58596 Kay Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:03:41 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-58596 oh and one more thing that wasnt in my last post: the INTENTIONS of what is done to the symbol give it meaning (or meanings in this case). But all stands true with this statement, Take away the meanings, and you got urself a bunch of lines. Intentions and Meanings determine what makes a strange combination of lines evil or good. No symbol by itself ( no meanings or intentions), is evil or good. Just depends on what you do WITH the symbol that determines the MEANING. But as i have stated many times already, take away intentions and meaning, what do you have? An interestingly strange combination of lines. oh and one more thing that wasnt in my last post: the INTENTIONS of what is done to the symbol give it meaning (or meanings in this case). But all stands true with this statement, Take away the meanings, and you got urself a bunch of lines. Intentions and Meanings determine what makes a strange combination of lines evil or good. No symbol by itself ( no meanings or intentions), is evil or good. Just depends on what you do WITH the symbol that determines the MEANING. But as i have stated many times already, take away intentions and meaning, what do you have? An interestingly strange combination of lines.

]]> By: omkarmoghe http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-58096 omkarmoghe Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:06:26 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-58096 I am a Hindu. I have a Swastika symbol on my door. it symbolises prosperity growth and fertility. i have a jew friend and he never took it the wrong way. that symbol is almost as ancient as hinduism itself. in some form or another it has always been with us. its a pity that a man used it for his evil purpose. I am a Hindu.
I have a Swastika symbol on my door. it symbolises prosperity growth and fertility. i have a jew friend and he never took it the wrong way. that symbol is almost as ancient as hinduism itself. in some form or another it has always been with us. its a pity that a man used it for his evil purpose.

]]> By: Josh http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-58029 Josh Sat, 20 Feb 2010 08:11:59 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-58029 This was a well written article. However reading all of these comments I think its time you heard from a real American from the USA. The ignorant, intellectually challenged peons you think that we all are only make up a small percentage of our population. Yes, its unfortunate that the ones who can afford to travel to other countries feel like taking our laid back customs with them, but please stop bashing my country. And speaking as a Christian I love everyone. I love them regardless of their color, religion, language or even whether they hate or love me. It saddens me greatly to see what Hitler did to such a historic symbol but banning it around the world will not change what he did. Forcing the image to be shut away will, if anything, force the memories of those who died at his party's hands to be locked away forever. He smeared the stain of blood on a symbol of peace, he should be condemned not this symbol. The problem isn't the symbol; its the racist clowns that use it. This was a well written article. However reading all of these comments I think its time you heard from a real American from the USA.

The ignorant, intellectually challenged peons you think that we all are only make up a small percentage of our population. Yes, its unfortunate that the ones who can afford to travel to other countries feel like taking our laid back customs with them, but please stop bashing my country.

And speaking as a Christian I love everyone. I love them regardless of their color, religion, language or even whether they hate or love me. It saddens me greatly to see what Hitler did to such a historic symbol but banning it around the world will not change what he did. Forcing the image to be shut away will, if anything, force the memories of those who died at his party’s hands to be locked away forever. He smeared the stain of blood on a symbol of peace, he should be condemned not this symbol.

The problem isn’t the symbol; its the racist clowns that use it.

]]> By: Tristan http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-57530 Tristan Sun, 07 Feb 2010 07:16:15 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-57530 Hitler's swastika is a inverted sanskrit sun wheel.Hitler stole the sun wheel symbol and if you ever read a history book you know what happens next Hitler’s swastika is a inverted sanskrit sun wheel.Hitler stole the sun wheel symbol and if you ever read a history book you know what happens next

]]> By: Mazin http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-56629 Mazin Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:52:38 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-56629 Very interesting and enlightening history. All new to me. Thank you, Aby. Very interesting and enlightening history. All new to me.

Thank you, Aby.

]]> By: Commisaridant of the Ziato http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-55420 Commisaridant of the Ziato Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:18:39 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-55420 The Swastika means a lot of things the religions of asia the symbol of luck and of course the evil of the Nazis but in the end it means whatever you think it means good or bad friendy or firce nice or nazi only you would know in conclusion when you look at something like this what do you think? The Swastika means a lot of things the religions of asia the symbol of luck and of course the evil of the Nazis but in the end it means whatever you think it means good or bad friendy or firce nice or nazi only you would know in conclusion when you look at something like this what do you think?

]]> By: Kyle http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-53344 Kyle Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:04:44 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-53344 Hey. Great, informative article. I often think about the corruptive habits of ideologically bigoted hate groups. And, really, I think one of the worst things they do is, as you say, taking and corrupting symbols that are supposed to be positive. One white supremacist group, for instance, has chosen to use Odin's Rune--a long vertical line with a shorter line extending diagonally up and out from each side of the main. This once simply was a symbol of the diety Odin and everything associated with him (including wisdom). Now it's supposedly a "hate symbol" simply because ONE group of boneheads decided to take it. Not fair, is it? I agree that simply avoiding/hating/eradicating these symbols would be, in a certain way, to tip our caps to bigots. Then the question becomes "how do we re-appropriate these symbols?" I don't have the answer, but I'm sure open to suggestions. Hey. Great, informative article. I often think about the corruptive habits of ideologically bigoted hate groups. And, really, I think one of the worst things they do is, as you say, taking and corrupting symbols that are supposed to be positive. One white supremacist group, for instance, has chosen to use Odin’s Rune–a long vertical line with a shorter line extending diagonally up and out from each side of the main. This once simply was a symbol of the diety Odin and everything associated with him (including wisdom). Now it’s supposedly a “hate symbol” simply because ONE group of boneheads decided to take it. Not fair, is it? I agree that simply avoiding/hating/eradicating these symbols would be, in a certain way, to tip our caps to bigots. Then the question becomes “how do we re-appropriate these symbols?” I don’t have the answer, but I’m sure open to suggestions.

]]> By: Drew http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-52218 Drew Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:51:00 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-52218 Greetings! It's not so much as the symbol, as what is DONE with it. Someting good was distorted by a distorted person for his own use, while generally condemning the other forms of the symbol. You can't paint everything with one brush or one color. If anything, the distortion of the symbol should serve to remind us that evil will always pervert that which is good, and that evil will fall when opposed by good - and after much sacrifice - a symbol of failed evil, if you will. Until mankind changes, I will still teach my children how any one man can take a nation down the road to perdition. Meanwhile, I will still build models of the aircraft with the markings for historical purposes, NOT to honor Hitler, but the history of aviation as a whole - once cannot deny the Germans gave us breakthroughs un technology we see today from that horrible war. Greetings!
It’s not so much as the symbol, as what is DONE with it. Someting good was distorted by a distorted person for his own use, while generally condemning the other forms of the symbol. You can’t paint everything with one brush or one color. If anything, the distortion of the symbol should serve to remind us that evil will always pervert that which is good, and that evil will fall when opposed by good - and after much sacrifice - a symbol of failed evil, if you will. Until mankind changes, I will still teach my children how any one man can take a nation down the road to perdition. Meanwhile, I will still build models of the aircraft with the markings for historical purposes, NOT to honor Hitler, but the history of aviation as a whole - once cannot deny the Germans gave us breakthroughs un technology we see today from that horrible war.

]]> By: John http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-50977 John Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:36:54 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-50977 When Hitler was winning war Swastika , the flag and all was good .But when Hitler lost the war and killed himself ,every thing including his name became bad ! This is the basic human nature to blame any thing. I mean about the Swastika symbol . If you see in the above photographs you can know that all this symbol are not the same .The positions are in different angles. It was Hitler who was evil and not the Swastika. So it is like if you use your gun to kill some one then you are bad and go to jail. If you use the same gun to protect some one you are a hero and get rewards . Hitler used his power to kill innocent people. So people in Europe think that Swastika is bad as it was used by Hitler. I don't blame them as most of them are not really aware that the same kind of Swastika is used in other parts of the world and worshiped. I was even told by my German teacher that it is taboo to ask about Hitler in Germany. So I think we should respect the people emotions when we are moving around the world .Not to argue on each other religion making every one feel bad. All religion talks about love & peace but no one is interested in it ,but like to find fault with each others . When Hitler was winning war Swastika , the flag and all was good .But when Hitler lost the war and killed himself ,every thing including his name became bad !

This is the basic human nature to blame any thing. I mean about the Swastika symbol .

If you see in the above photographs you can know that all this symbol are not the same .The positions are in different angles.

It was Hitler who was evil and not the Swastika.

So it is like if you use your gun to kill some one then you are bad and go to jail. If you use the same gun to protect some one you are a hero and get rewards .

Hitler used his power to kill innocent people. So people in Europe think that Swastika is bad as it was used by Hitler. I don’t blame them as most of them are not really aware that the same kind of Swastika is used in other parts of the world and worshiped.

I was even told by my German teacher that it is taboo to ask about Hitler in Germany. So I think we should respect the people emotions when we are moving around the world .Not to argue on each other religion making every one feel bad.

All religion talks about love & peace but no one is interested in it ,but like to find fault with each others .

]]> By: Ray O'Brien http://www.abytheliberal.com/historical-misconcepts/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil#comment-50543 Ray O'Brien Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:34:03 +0000 http://www.abytheliberal.com/2007/04/12/is-swastika-a-symbol-of-evil/#comment-50543 Whilst I was at school in Manchester, England back in the early 80's, I quite deliberately sketched a "Swastika" onto the front cover of my religious education text book. Yes, I was trying to provoke a reaction from my tutor in an atempt to enter in to a discussion about the symbol's religious history. I had read quite a lot about the swastika and it's use in various religions going back over 3000 years. Unfortunately for me, my tutor declined my offer of debate, and swiftly issued me with 30 days detention. Whilst I was feeling rather smug with myself for exposing my tutor as the ignorant, autocrat that I knew her to be, I must admit to thinking, "was it worth it" whilst having to write a 4000 word essay on 'The rise of the third reich' Not one of my graetest achievements!!!! Whilst I was at school in Manchester, England back in the early 80’s, I quite deliberately sketched a “Swastika” onto the front cover of my religious education text book.

Yes, I was trying to provoke a reaction from my tutor in an atempt to enter in to a discussion about the symbol’s religious history. I had read quite a lot about the swastika and it’s use in various religions going back over 3000 years.

Unfortunately for me, my tutor declined my offer of debate, and swiftly issued me with 30 days detention.

Whilst I was feeling rather smug with myself for exposing my tutor as the ignorant, autocrat that I knew her to be, I must admit to thinking, “was it worth it” whilst having to write a 4000 word essay on ‘The rise of the third reich’

Not one of my graetest achievements!!!!

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