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		<title>By: Justin Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents were born in Karela, india i was born in new york. And I am aways wanting to learn what's happening like what we are talking bout now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents were born in Karela, india i was born in new york. And I am aways wanting to learn what&#8217;s happening like what we are talking bout now</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shyam You are right with everyone just being one ally and having peace. But, unfortunetly it's not like that so you just have to go with how it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shyam You are right with everyone just being one ally and having peace. But, unfortunetly it&#8217;s not like that so you just have to go with how it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aka I agree with Aka. If China, Pakistan and India come together as one they will be a whole new power. But, you have to understand there are major tensions between india and pakistan and China and India have this way of thinking like they have to beat eachother. But that has to stop. Unfortunately some people think China's better or India's better and that the U.S. is the leader. This notion has to stop. Just look the U.S. is facing trillions of dollars in debt. There are people suffering without jobs. So, they might be strong but they still have problems. The U.S. (i think) is ranked number 26 in education that's not bad but if people think their best at everything that's not so great. The Pakistani's, Chinese, and Indians are hardworkers and if they come together they will become a superpower i guarentee. While more Americans get lazier. When they get hit with 5 hrs of hw they complain. When asian countries and other countries get hit with 5hrs of hw they have no problem (just an example dont ask how hw got into this).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aka I agree with Aka. If China, Pakistan and India come together as one they will be a whole new power. But, you have to understand there are major tensions between india and pakistan and China and India have this way of thinking like they have to beat eachother. But that has to stop. Unfortunately some people think China&#8217;s better or India&#8217;s better and that the U.S. is the leader. This notion has to stop. Just look the U.S. is facing trillions of dollars in debt. There are people suffering without jobs. So, they might be strong but they still have problems. The U.S. (i think) is ranked number 26 in education that&#8217;s not bad but if people think their best at everything that&#8217;s not so great. The Pakistani&#8217;s, Chinese, and Indians are hardworkers and if they come together they will become a superpower i guarentee. While more Americans get lazier. When they get hit with 5 hrs of hw they complain. When asian countries and other countries get hit with 5hrs of hw they have no problem (just an example dont ask how hw got into this).</p>
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		<title>By: Shyam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shyam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 05:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys this kind of blog should not have existed this is just a hindrance to world Peace .but I am happy on one thing about this blog no one is using harsh words against one another like they use in youtube.
I want to ask you guys one question ?why do all ways talk about divisions between ourselves in the world please thing that we all are one and the same it has been proved that we all had same origins in Africa ,the thing we are of diff body futures because of diff geographic environment,that's all.instead of talking Asian front,eurion front,pak china alliance etc,why not think about a world democracy where all countries are united won't it be nice think!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys this kind of blog should not have existed this is just a hindrance to world Peace .but I am happy on one thing about this blog no one is using harsh words against one another like they use in youtube.<br />
I want to ask you guys one question ?why do all ways talk about divisions between ourselves in the world please thing that we all are one and the same it has been proved that we all had same origins in Africa ,the thing we are of diff body futures because of diff geographic environment,that&#8217;s all.instead of talking Asian front,eurion front,pak china alliance etc,why not think about a world democracy where all countries are united won&#8217;t it be nice think!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Qudsi</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 10:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know why Indians fellows keep blaming Pakistan. Prior to talking about peace in region there must be peace in Kashmir, which is triple junction between Pakistan, India and China. This is hypocrisy if you pretend to be a peace bearer while militarising and killing in Kashmir. Peace can not be created by words or just wishing it to be happen. It requires some serious actions and flexibility in behaviour. More over stop interfering issues of others, as India is so much responsible for creating in Baluchistan on behalf of America because they don't want Pakistan, China , Afghanistan and central Asian countries to access Gwadar port. We all know that this port can bring a great trade and change in region. Which America doesn't want to see. And India is simply working for their interests by destabilizing Baluchistan and  killing of Chinese workers in Pakistan. 
I am sorry if hurt any one but I'll just say India should be honest and sincere for region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why Indians fellows keep blaming Pakistan. Prior to talking about peace in region there must be peace in Kashmir, which is triple junction between Pakistan, India and China. This is hypocrisy if you pretend to be a peace bearer while militarising and killing in Kashmir. Peace can not be created by words or just wishing it to be happen. It requires some serious actions and flexibility in behaviour. More over stop interfering issues of others, as India is so much responsible for creating in Baluchistan on behalf of America because they don&#8217;t want Pakistan, China , Afghanistan and central Asian countries to access Gwadar port. We all know that this port can bring a great trade and change in region. Which America doesn&#8217;t want to see. And India is simply working for their interests by destabilizing Baluchistan and  killing of Chinese workers in Pakistan.<br />
I am sorry if hurt any one but I&#8217;ll just say India should be honest and sincere for region.</p>
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		<title>By: INDIAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>INDIAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 01:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dmirtri,
First of all, thanks for such an article.

Now, regarding the issues taken up my dear friends.
Lets have some light over the real issues.
Its hard fact but its true that no country in the world can ever prosper with its internal differences and cut-throat survival.
To make a prosperous and powerful country, one has to somehow sacrifice their internal differences somehow.
To be clear on my point, India still follows a strong and rigid caste system which is really a strong hurdle in it.
Its in India that hardly people call them "Indian". We are busy in dividing and sub-dividing ourselves. There we are not Indians, but we are either Hindu or Muslim or Christian or any other religion. It doesn`t even stops there. If you are Hindu, then you are again sub-categorized with small brackets of Pandit, Rajpoot, Shudra, etc. etc. So we can see that even Hindus or Muslims, anong themselves are not united together as a whole. Even under them they have subdivisions. And in case of social striff, its human nature to be close to its ally. So even if you are Hindu, You will be a Hindu against a Muslim or any other religion. But at the moment the opponent is also a Hindu then you will go for that sub-category. 
The worst part is that, those sub-division never stops. Even if you are a Pandit, you have 100s of sub-division. Hence there are around 100000s types of divisions or say wall among ourself. 
So my Indian friends, where do the question of any foreign differences touches us??
We are ourselves in so many bits and pieces that we never get time to look outside the window.
A disintegrated and divided Nation can never be a powerful nation. 
Our political leaders are all taking advantage of the situation and doing there own bit. 
Friends, I might be getting too radical here, but if we don`t cure our own wound then there`s no question of a fight or race. 
And its always better to take care of wounds by ourselves.
And the only hope we have is with our youths.
We are one of the youngest nation in the world with average age of 27 years. And with education and global exposure, we are also understanding that there`s no need of religion or caste until you follow the religion of Humanity.
Be Human friends and not a Hindu or Muslim or any other religion.
And its hard truth but if we start injecting this insulin in our veins a this time. Then we can hope a Great Powerful Nation in 15-20 years ahead.
And if not, then whatever we do there`s no point of discussing your military power or economic power!!!
At present
We have a huge population with a promising market, thats why the whole world is looking over India. 
But the thing which will matter in long run is that
WHAT INDIAN THINKS OVER THEIR OWN ISSUES??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dmirtri,<br />
First of all, thanks for such an article.</p>
<p>Now, regarding the issues taken up my dear friends.<br />
Lets have some light over the real issues.<br />
Its hard fact but its true that no country in the world can ever prosper with its internal differences and cut-throat survival.<br />
To make a prosperous and powerful country, one has to somehow sacrifice their internal differences somehow.<br />
To be clear on my point, India still follows a strong and rigid caste system which is really a strong hurdle in it.<br />
Its in India that hardly people call them &#8220;Indian&#8221;. We are busy in dividing and sub-dividing ourselves. There we are not Indians, but we are either Hindu or Muslim or Christian or any other religion. It doesn`t even stops there. If you are Hindu, then you are again sub-categorized with small brackets of Pandit, Rajpoot, Shudra, etc. etc. So we can see that even Hindus or Muslims, anong themselves are not united together as a whole. Even under them they have subdivisions. And in case of social striff, its human nature to be close to its ally. So even if you are Hindu, You will be a Hindu against a Muslim or any other religion. But at the moment the opponent is also a Hindu then you will go for that sub-category.<br />
The worst part is that, those sub-division never stops. Even if you are a Pandit, you have 100s of sub-division. Hence there are around 100000s types of divisions or say wall among ourself.<br />
So my Indian friends, where do the question of any foreign differences touches us??<br />
We are ourselves in so many bits and pieces that we never get time to look outside the window.<br />
A disintegrated and divided Nation can never be a powerful nation.<br />
Our political leaders are all taking advantage of the situation and doing there own bit.<br />
Friends, I might be getting too radical here, but if we don`t cure our own wound then there`s no question of a fight or race.<br />
And its always better to take care of wounds by ourselves.<br />
And the only hope we have is with our youths.<br />
We are one of the youngest nation in the world with average age of 27 years. And with education and global exposure, we are also understanding that there`s no need of religion or caste until you follow the religion of Humanity.<br />
Be Human friends and not a Hindu or Muslim or any other religion.<br />
And its hard truth but if we start injecting this insulin in our veins a this time. Then we can hope a Great Powerful Nation in 15-20 years ahead.<br />
And if not, then whatever we do there`s no point of discussing your military power or economic power!!!<br />
At present<br />
We have a huge population with a promising market, thats why the whole world is looking over India.<br />
But the thing which will matter in long run is that<br />
WHAT INDIAN THINKS OVER THEIR OWN ISSUES??</p>
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		<title>By: c.k.chamy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 06:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good chat ....

Well India may not start the war against any country since we are a developing country there are lot of areas for us to develope. I can say china is really waiting for something and they want to become a empire for the whole world which is really going to happen anyways. And till reaching that position surely they may not get themselfs in to war.

But i can say that India is having about approx 60% of weapons and militery people against china's weapons and people so if any one starts war then there will be a huge loss for both countries which is no body really wants !!!!!

If anybody wants to show thier strength against any country which will have result of 3 world war and at end of the war no more in the name earth will exist.......in universe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good chat &#8230;.</p>
<p>Well India may not start the war against any country since we are a developing country there are lot of areas for us to develope. I can say china is really waiting for something and they want to become a empire for the whole world which is really going to happen anyways. And till reaching that position surely they may not get themselfs in to war.</p>
<p>But i can say that India is having about approx 60% of weapons and militery people against china&#8217;s weapons and people so if any one starts war then there will be a huge loss for both countries which is no body really wants !!!!!</p>
<p>If anybody wants to show thier strength against any country which will have result of 3 world war and at end of the war no more in the name earth will exist&#8230;&#8230;.in universe</p>
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		<title>By: India wins, hands down</title>
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		<dc:creator>India wins, hands down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.chinasmack.com/2010/pictures/filthy-india-photos-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

You think China can top that? That's world's oldest WMD

Jai Hindi Jarats Jacow!</description>
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<p>You think China can top that? That&#8217;s world&#8217;s oldest WMD</p>
<p>Jai Hindi Jarats Jacow!</p>
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		<title>By: drgaur</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fucking politicians always let India down.Its grave situation n everyone in world knows this.first combat the rascals within,then make mouthful of statements. India is put on sale by almost threshold of corruption that leave us sick. India was world leader when westerners lived in caves,but now it is dirty in many respects. Just stop blogging fools. India needs political revolution, then super scientific development by its genius and copycats combined to be able to face wars. Genius need to be put in right place, that's all India needs now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fucking politicians always let India down.Its grave situation n everyone in world knows this.first combat the rascals within,then make mouthful of statements. India is put on sale by almost threshold of corruption that leave us sick. India was world leader when westerners lived in caves,but now it is dirty in many respects. Just stop blogging fools. India needs political revolution, then super scientific development by its genius and copycats combined to be able to face wars. Genius need to be put in right place, that&#8217;s all India needs now.</p>
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		<title>By: Anand</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War mongering has always been a white skin’s and yellow skin’s business. Lengthy wars for pride and privileges have never been and never will be an Indian trait. That is why there is always a bitter struggle between these two races to see with whom the Indians side. This itself is recognition of India’s great military power regardless of how much the western and oriental races like to deride India’s military weakness, rampant poverty and economy. The old Hindu kingdom once covered a large mass of earth spanning almost one half of Asia. That cannot be achieved again. The one large surviving Hindu zone is India. It is also the most stable zone surrounded by a mess created by white and oriental skin’ meddling. India’s military doctrine has always been defensive and so the military machinery is built to that effect. Chinese military doctrine has been of that an aggressor and its military is built to that effect. A military clash will test which will survive. The aggressor always gains initially because of its push and the defender always suffers defeat due to its defense. But that is just the beginning. What happens after that is the most dangerous part of the war as the defender pushes with its teeth and muscle extracting the price from the aggressor. At this point the aggressor can only withdraw and concede the land it has captured or it risks being wiped out. The heavy loss of force will be unacceptable. History is complete with examples of this. So, no matter how weak the Indian military is to the Chinese armor, when it comes the Himalayan mountains and the plains below, India will win. The Chinese know that and they dare not enter these regions. But over the years Indians have evolved a strategy to take the Tibetan plateau. All this requires is a strong strike force which is different from our doctrine. Some strike forces backed up by a large defense groups trained and equipped to dig in and survive bombardment will drain the Chinese. And when the bombardment stops, the strikers will regroup to take over the frontlines. That is what is going to happen in the next war, if that ever happens. So rest assured, India as always will survive the next war and bounce back unlike the empires that have crumbled trying to subdue this Hindu Golden Bird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War mongering has always been a white skin’s and yellow skin’s business. Lengthy wars for pride and privileges have never been and never will be an Indian trait. That is why there is always a bitter struggle between these two races to see with whom the Indians side. This itself is recognition of India’s great military power regardless of how much the western and oriental races like to deride India’s military weakness, rampant poverty and economy. The old Hindu kingdom once covered a large mass of earth spanning almost one half of Asia. That cannot be achieved again. The one large surviving Hindu zone is India. It is also the most stable zone surrounded by a mess created by white and oriental skin’ meddling. India’s military doctrine has always been defensive and so the military machinery is built to that effect. Chinese military doctrine has been of that an aggressor and its military is built to that effect. A military clash will test which will survive. The aggressor always gains initially because of its push and the defender always suffers defeat due to its defense. But that is just the beginning. What happens after that is the most dangerous part of the war as the defender pushes with its teeth and muscle extracting the price from the aggressor. At this point the aggressor can only withdraw and concede the land it has captured or it risks being wiped out. The heavy loss of force will be unacceptable. History is complete with examples of this. So, no matter how weak the Indian military is to the Chinese armor, when it comes the Himalayan mountains and the plains below, India will win. The Chinese know that and they dare not enter these regions. But over the years Indians have evolved a strategy to take the Tibetan plateau. All this requires is a strong strike force which is different from our doctrine. Some strike forces backed up by a large defense groups trained and equipped to dig in and survive bombardment will drain the Chinese. And when the bombardment stops, the strikers will regroup to take over the frontlines. That is what is going to happen in the next war, if that ever happens. So rest assured, India as always will survive the next war and bounce back unlike the empires that have crumbled trying to subdue this Hindu Golden Bird.</p>
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