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	<title>Comments on: Swastika - Democratically Nazi or Sacred?</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Yoyo</title>
		<link>http://www.abytheliberal.com/world-culture/swastika-democratically-nazi-or-sacred#comment-114652</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly advice everyone to respect this symbol and try to speak positively. Most importantly, do not take any symbols that has connections to any religions as joke or hostility, such as Swastika and Cross. It is unacceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly advice everyone to respect this symbol and try to speak positively. Most importantly, do not take any symbols that has connections to any religions as joke or hostility, such as Swastika and Cross. It is unacceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoyo</title>
		<link>http://www.abytheliberal.com/world-culture/swastika-democratically-nazi-or-sacred#comment-114618</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swastika is a symbol meaning of supremacy of peace and harmony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swastika is a symbol meaning of supremacy of peace and harmony.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 07:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got an idea. Lets make a new fucking symbol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got an idea. Lets make a new fucking symbol.</p>
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		<title>By: Humanithai</title>
		<link>http://www.abytheliberal.com/world-culture/swastika-democratically-nazi-or-sacred#comment-32159</link>
		<dc:creator>Humanithai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ KFW 

Your post gives as much credibility to a "mute symbol" in the negative, as do the pro-swastikas do in a positive way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ KFW </p>
<p>Your post gives as much credibility to a &#8220;mute symbol&#8221; in the negative, as do the pro-swastikas do in a positive way.</p>
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		<title>By: triskele</title>
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		<dc:creator>triskele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Steven Heller´s book "Swartika - Symbol beyond redemption?" last sentence sums it up..."For every well-meaning artist who thinks the swastika can be tamed, there is a devout racist who embraces it. That the swastika prompts such complex debate only goes to prove that debate is a smoke screen. As long as it embodies even an iota of evil, it will never been redeamed".
Do you agree or disagree?
Is the christian cross so tainted by its use by the Klu Klux Klan? (not neary so?) Are the runes so tainted?
Why isnÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t the hammer and sickle of mother Russia so tainted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Steven Heller´s book &#8220;Swartika - Symbol beyond redemption?&#8221; last sentence sums it up&#8230;&#8221;For every well-meaning artist who thinks the swastika can be tamed, there is a devout racist who embraces it. That the swastika prompts such complex debate only goes to prove that debate is a smoke screen. As long as it embodies even an iota of evil, it will never been redeamed&#8221;.<br />
Do you agree or disagree?<br />
Is the christian cross so tainted by its use by the Klu Klux Klan? (not neary so?) Are the runes so tainted?<br />
Why isnÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t the hammer and sickle of mother Russia so tainted?</p>
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		<title>By: KFW</title>
		<link>http://www.abytheliberal.com/world-culture/swastika-democratically-nazi-or-sacred#comment-11211</link>
		<dc:creator>KFW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>umm... politics in general isn't democratic, in case you didn't notice.

The fact that we have little or no way of knowing what people in Myanmar think about swastikas MATTERS.  The fact that they were used by a group that made a gigantic difference in the lives of millions, MATTERS.

When the people who revere the swastika have more political power in the world than those influenced, for better or worse, by knowing of the existence of the Nazis, then the swastika will lose its negative connotation.

The fact remains that when it is encountered in America or Europe, the odds of it representing Naziism are much higher than of it representing Hinduism or European paganism, except that European paganism is seen as connected to Naziism.  In India, in China, in Laos - of course not.  There is no reason there to connect the symbol with a European political movement.

Frankly, people who are willing to give that much power to a mute symbol terrify me, regardless of what they claim the symbol represents.  They tend to forget that it's only a symbol, and is likely a symbol of something ELSE to other people i.e. I'll tolerate your symbol if you'll tolerate my image of Calvin pissing on your symbol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm&#8230; politics in general isn&#8217;t democratic, in case you didn&#8217;t notice.</p>
<p>The fact that we have little or no way of knowing what people in Myanmar think about swastikas MATTERS.  The fact that they were used by a group that made a gigantic difference in the lives of millions, MATTERS.</p>
<p>When the people who revere the swastika have more political power in the world than those influenced, for better or worse, by knowing of the existence of the Nazis, then the swastika will lose its negative connotation.</p>
<p>The fact remains that when it is encountered in America or Europe, the odds of it representing Naziism are much higher than of it representing Hinduism or European paganism, except that European paganism is seen as connected to Naziism.  In India, in China, in Laos - of course not.  There is no reason there to connect the symbol with a European political movement.</p>
<p>Frankly, people who are willing to give that much power to a mute symbol terrify me, regardless of what they claim the symbol represents.  They tend to forget that it&#8217;s only a symbol, and is likely a symbol of something ELSE to other people i.e. I&#8217;ll tolerate your symbol if you&#8217;ll tolerate my image of Calvin pissing on your symbol.</p>
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		<title>By: Theme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since when did the Anglo-Saxon values become so superior that it transcends everyone including East Asian cultures? Since when did the West make up only the world? When the West realise that there are 6 billion people who as are important, then the world might be better. By the way, the concept of western culture championed by Saxons is just a romantic view. To outsiders, Wars, divide and conquer, Opium Wars, resource theft, colonisation, economic sanctions is the actual face of the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since when did the Anglo-Saxon values become so superior that it transcends everyone including East Asian cultures? Since when did the West make up only the world? When the West realise that there are 6 billion people who as are important, then the world might be better. By the way, the concept of western culture championed by Saxons is just a romantic view. To outsiders, Wars, divide and conquer, Opium Wars, resource theft, colonisation, economic sanctions is the actual face of the West.</p>
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		<title>By: wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fact is that there is alot of killling/genocide in the culture related to india/asian civilization, eg ,pol pot, china revolution, india killing during their internal partition war, etc. it is most deceitful to associate the evil symbol with peace when obviously it has not. i have long suspected hitler was influenced by some sort of evil eastern influence and when i analyse this article, it seems to have a link to the evilness of hitler. it is scary to imagine that what  eastern power or eastern religious organisation (eg,hindu, islam, buddhist,etc who preach peace but never meant it) will do to us if they become powerful and murderous like hitler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fact is that there is alot of killling/genocide in the culture related to india/asian civilization, eg ,pol pot, china revolution, india killing during their internal partition war, etc. it is most deceitful to associate the evil symbol with peace when obviously it has not. i have long suspected hitler was influenced by some sort of evil eastern influence and when i analyse this article, it seems to have a link to the evilness of hitler. it is scary to imagine that what  eastern power or eastern religious organisation (eg,hindu, islam, buddhist,etc who preach peace but never meant it) will do to us if they become powerful and murderous like hitler.</p>
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		<title>By: Gomzi</title>
		<link>http://www.abytheliberal.com/world-culture/swastika-democratically-nazi-or-sacred#comment-1883</link>
		<dc:creator>Gomzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Swastika is a religious symbol for Hindus (Indo Aryan Followers of the Sanatan Dharma) of India. The symbol essentially represents, good luck,prosperity,peace and faith in the all mighty. This symbol was brought to India by the Indo Aryan settlers and thereon spreaded to all the south and south east asian cultures during hundreds of years of cultural and religious exchanges.Buddhism which grew out of Hinduism as an offshoot was also instrumental in spreading it, as many Indian rulers, notably Ashoka sent missions to Sri Lanka,China,Indonesia,Java,Bali,Sumatra,Borneo,Vietnam and many more countries. No logical person should associate the Swastika with Hatred and Fear just because the Nazis misused it as their symbol for Aryan Valour. The ancient Aryans may have revered it due to spiritual or religious faith and thats true for all other existing Aryan cultures...but assuming that anything related to the Aryans or the Swastika is evil or nagative is totally biased and hurting to all such cultures and religions that have an ancient Aryan lineage and use the Swastika in their cultural and religious practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Swastika is a religious symbol for Hindus (Indo Aryan Followers of the Sanatan Dharma) of India. The symbol essentially represents, good luck,prosperity,peace and faith in the all mighty. This symbol was brought to India by the Indo Aryan settlers and thereon spreaded to all the south and south east asian cultures during hundreds of years of cultural and religious exchanges.Buddhism which grew out of Hinduism as an offshoot was also instrumental in spreading it, as many Indian rulers, notably Ashoka sent missions to Sri Lanka,China,Indonesia,Java,Bali,Sumatra,Borneo,Vietnam and many more countries. No logical person should associate the Swastika with Hatred and Fear just because the Nazis misused it as their symbol for Aryan Valour. The ancient Aryans may have revered it due to spiritual or religious faith and thats true for all other existing Aryan cultures&#8230;but assuming that anything related to the Aryans or the Swastika is evil or nagative is totally biased and hurting to all such cultures and religions that have an ancient Aryan lineage and use the Swastika in their cultural and religious practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaleb</title>
		<link>http://www.abytheliberal.com/world-culture/swastika-democratically-nazi-or-sacred#comment-826</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi nice post, i enjoyed it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi nice post, i enjoyed it</p>
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