Durrign war there is a morality vs efficincy graph. The more morality a military shows teh less efective it is during an occupational war. However if it goes to full efectiveness that is a complete slaughter of peopel that even show signs of helping partisans or army. Its horbile but effective. So yes peopel got killed and people were burned but the victor writes the history books and they say it was legitimate.

@ Frank - “To state what you did about Americans being no better than Nazis and that every American has a genocidal side and that we relish wars and killing has to be the most idiotic and ignorant statement I have ever heard.”

I think he made a good point. Americans do have a genocidal side to them, which they keep slaked but rears its ugly head now and then. Most crimes of violence and hate happen in America. Movies and games containing a lot of violence and gore become instant hits in United States (and its copycat nations like Australia, etc.). Over 75% of the world’s serial killers are born and bred in America. Personally I’ve met a number of Americans who justify the worst kind of violent crimes with inane justifications. For example, a 40-year old American woman said that rapes by Americans in foreign countries is all right since ‘rapes are more common in Australia than USA and justice against rapes is not absolute’. No non-violent human being would have made such a savage justification.
 

@ Frank - “Americans are typically generous, charitable and supportive of peace and freedom.”

If destroying nations and then pretending charity by rebuilding them is considered generousity and charity, then yeah, Americans could be considered generous. Perhaps an Iraqi would be quite generous if he blows up an American airline full of passengers and then pays $10000 in ‘charity’.
 
Supportive of peace and freedom, as in Iraq and Vietnam? Contra Latin America? The Regime of Colonels in Greece? You have your head in the clouds, pindos! Get back to the ground.
 

@ Frank - “What the fight for is freedom and though not perfect (far from it) we would never make a statement as hateful and distorted as you have.”

His remarks have a backup in history and current events. A lot more real than your fantasy myths about America and Americans, that I tore to shards in my argument.
 
The bottomline: Apart from ultra-religious fanatics, only an American could kill half a million or more innocent human beings, and yet feel so good about it that they thump their nationalist chests on how they secured ‘peace and freedom’ by killing all these innocents. They did it not only about the 300000+ people in Hiroshima, but over 4 million in Vietnam as well. I’d like to see how Americans take it if I say that the WTC attacks were all for ‘freedom and peace’ too. I’ll host a party this September on this theme and invite all Americans I know, to see how well it goes.

On a personal note, my grandfather died in Dresden. There were documented logs that he had already saved 53 Jewish men, women and children at this point. I hope you are ashamed if you use the Holocaust to justify Dresden. I actually don’t even know what to say about those who do. 130000 Germans did not DESERVE to die. 0 Germans DESERVED to die in Dresden. Maybe at the Nuremberg Trials. Not in horrible agony as a result of being burned to death. Would you have agreed to firebombing Dallas in the 1930’s due to all the civil rights violations? Or are you one of those Christians that says they hate fascists like the Nazis, then turn around and denounce gay marriage and are secretly (or sometimes not so secretly) racist?

To state what you did about Americans being no better than Nazis and that every American has a genocidal side and that we relish wars and killing has to be the most idiotic and ignorant statement I have ever heard. Americans are typically generous, charitable and supportive of peace and freedom. What the fight for is freedom and though not perfect (far from it) we would never make a statement as hateful and distorted as you have.